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Rules Clarification
As you may have seen over in the "Seasonal Penalty Box" post, we have a DQ rules update/clarification that is fully active at this time. And it goes like this...
Race DQ rules:
If you do not finish the race for the following reasons you will be DQ'd for the race, which counts as a strike.
1.Quitting out for any reason including a disconnection.
2.Running out of fuel.
3.Illegal car build.
4.Pitting on the first race lap or the last lap
5.Pitting more times than required or pitting less times than required.
Once DQ'd, it means your race will not be rated, but you will still receive last place points for that race. And, it does not mean you have been disqualified for the season, unless it is your 5th strike.
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If you lag out on the last lap and are at least 12 car lengths in front of the car behind you, you will be credited for your final position. If not, you will be credited with last place points based on size of grid. You will also retain whatever bonuses are applicable including the 0.25 clean driver bonus.
Race DQ rules:
If you do not finish the race for the following reasons you will be DQ'd for the race, which counts as a strike.
1.Quitting out for any reason including a disconnection.
2.Running out of fuel.
3.Illegal car build.
4.Pitting on the first race lap or the last lap
5.Pitting more times than required or pitting less times than required.
Once DQ'd, it means your race will not be rated, but you will still receive last place points for that race. And, it does not mean you have been disqualified for the season, unless it is your 5th strike.
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If you lag out on the last lap and are at least 12 car lengths in front of the car behind you, you will be credited for your final position. If not, you will be credited with last place points based on size of grid. You will also retain whatever bonuses are applicable including the 0.25 clean driver bonus.
Last edited by GTDon2 on Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:00 am; edited 2 times in total
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Re: Rules Clarification
GTDon2 wrote:As you may have seen over in the "Seasonal Penalty Box" post, we have a DQ rules update/clarification that is fully active at this time. And it goes like this...
Race DQ rules:
If you do not finish the race for the following reasons you will be DQ'd for the race, which counts as a strike.
1.Quitting out for any reason including a disconnection.
2.Running out of fuel.
3.Illegal car build.
4.Pitting on the first race lap or the last lap
5.Pitting more times than required or pitting less times than required.
Once DQ'd, it means your race will not be rated, but you will still receive last place points for that race. And, it does not mean you have been disqualified for the season, unless it is your 5th strike.
For Season 18, you do not have to use the same cars as your teammates.
(Reminder, you can use any Group 12a car to post your best practice lap time before the start of the season. Also, you are allowed to use any Group 6 car before the start of the 2nd half of the season. Once you begin the season [or 2nd half] you have to stay in the car you used to race with.)
If you make it to the Finale, you may use either one of the cars you raced during the regular season.
Team livery requirements:
1.)You must visibly display the IFCA URL on all 4 sides of the lower part of your car i.e., ifca.forumotion,com or [url=https://www.ifca.forumotion.com. /]www.ifca.forumotion.com. [/url]
2.)You must visibly display your official race # on all 4 sides of the car or any # above #17.
3.)Team cars must have matching livery graphics. Different color schemes are permitted.
4.)Team names must be visibly displayed on both sides of car.
5.)No obscene graphics or languages are permitted.
6.)No cars are permitted to use tinted windows.
If you or anyone on your team ignores the IFCA team livery requirements during a race, or are found to be in non-compliance with them, the driver in violation will earn a -1pt deduction that counts as a warning/strike.
Last edited by GTDon2 on Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:03 am; edited 1 time in total
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Re: Rules Clarification
GTDon2 wrote:GTDon2 wrote:As you may have seen over in the "Seasonal Penalty Box" post, we have a DQ rules update/clarification that is fully active at this time. And it goes like this...
Race DQ rules:
If you do not finish the race for the following reasons you will be DQ'd for the race, which counts as a strike.
1.Quitting out for any reason including a disconnection.
2.Running out of fuel.
3.Illegal car build.
4.Pitting on the first race lap or the last lap
5.Pitting more times than required or pitting less times than required.
Once DQ'd, it means your race will not be rated, but you will still receive last place points for that race. And, it does not mean you have been disqualified for the season, unless it is your 5th strike.
For Season 18, you do not have to use the same cars as your teammates.
(Reminder, you can use any Group 12a car to post your best practice lap time before the start of the season. Also, you are allowed to use any Group 6 car before the start of the 2nd half of the season. Once you begin the season [or 2nd half] you have to stay in the car you used to race with.)
If you make it to the Finale, you may use either one of the cars you raced during the regular season.
Team livery requirements:
1.)You must visibly display the IFCA URL on all 4 sides of the lower part of your car i.e., ifca.forumotion,com or [url=https://www.ifca.forumotion.com. /]www.ifca.forumotion.com. [/url]
2.)You must visibly display your official race # on all 4 sides of the car or any # above #17.
3.)Team cars are required to visibly display 1 major sponsor of their choice.
4.)Team cars must have matching livery graphics. Different color schemes are permitted.
5.)Team cars are required to use a black hood/bonnet. (non-Team cars are not permitted to use black hoods/bonnets.)
6.)Team names must be visibly displayed on both sides of car.
7.)No obscene graphics or languages are permitted.
8.)No cars are permitted to use tinted windows.
If you or anyone on your team ignores the IFCA team livery requirements during a race, or are found to be in non-compliance with them, the driver in violation will earn a -1pt deduction that counts as a warning/strike.
I'm adding 1 more way to add to your points total at the end of the season and put extra pressure on everyone to race clean. Anyone who drives a clean race, without receiving a driving warning/strike, will earn a clean driving bonus of +0.25pts each race. This is basically earning a potential extra +1.75pts for the season. The clean driving bonus points will not be doubled for the finale however. All other points are doubled for the finale.
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Latest update to Start rules
We discovered a glitch to the enforcement of the old start rules in that it was too strict. So strict in fact that had we continued using them practically everyone would be beyond the 5 strike limit per season and be DQ'd! So we had to come up with a more reasonable rule set that would be easier to comply with and easier to judge for infractions.
Reps. from Team Penske and Team WC1 (eries and whiskey) have laid out a new model and method. They will be the ones to decipher what should or shouldn't be penalized in the future going forward, and then GTDon will determine the severity of the penalties.
Basically it's pretty simple. Maintain your grid gap to within 6 feet of the car gridded in front of you, and never be so close that we can not see a space/gap between your front bumper and his back bumper. Do not be 100% throttle until your front bumper reaches the start/finish line, and, stay within the speed limit margin, no slower than 47mph and not faster than 53mph at the start/finish line.
This revised criteria will give everyone a wider margin for error to get it right before the Race Director seeks to penalize you. If you do earn a points penalty for jumping the start, you will also be docked 3 grid positions in the next weeks race. *Any and all points penalties will result in a 3 grid penalty for the following race.
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Re: Rules Clarification
GTDon2 wrote:
We discovered a glitch to the enforcement of the old start rules in that it was too strict. So strict in fact that had we continued using them practically everyone would be beyond the 5 strike limit per season and be DQ'd! So we had to come up with a more reasonable rule set that would be easier to comply with and easier to judge for infractions.
Reps. from Team Penske and Team WC1 (eries and whiskey) have laid out a new model and method. They will be the ones to decipher what should or shouldn't be penalized in the future going forward, and then GTDon will determine the severity of the penalties.
Basically it's pretty simple. Maintain your grid gap to within 6 feet of the car gridded in front of you, and never be so close that we can not see a space/gap between your front bumper and his back bumper. Do not be 100% throttle until your front bumper reaches the start/finish line, and, stay within the speed limit margin, no slower than 47mph and not faster than 53mph at the start/finish line.
This revised criteria will give everyone a wider margin for error to get it right before the Race Director seeks to penalize you. If you do earn a points penalty for jumping the start, you will also be docked 3 grid positions in the next weeks race. *Any and all points penalties will result in a 3 grid penalty for the following race.
After some consulting it has been determined that a penalty modification is in order.
The clarification is: There are 2 types of violations that carry with them a grid penalty for the following race. If you have hard contact that earns a point penalty, and, if you do not respect the start gap between you and the car gridded in front of you which also earns a point penalty.
For a contact violation you will lose 3 grid positions in the following race just as before. For a position violation at the start, you will only lose 1 grid position the following race and not 3. Do it again and you will lose 2 grid positions. A third time, 3 grid positions.
We feel this is ridiculously lenient since in real life jumping the start in this manner will get you a black flag and a stop and go penalty at the very least. We don't want to be that drastic. We want everyone to still have a chance to win or do well in spite of penalties is why. We look at our penalties not as a means of punishment or revenge to wrong doers, but more as a way to infuse some level of fairness however light. In other words, they are meant as guides or reminders to do what you know is right.
With the newest rule set in place it becomes more important than ever to stay out of trouble because there are more ways to earn the maximum number of strikes than before. It's still just 5 strikes before you are DQ'd for the season.
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Re: Rules Clarification
Clarity on position violation.
1. Not respecting the gap of having no clear space between yourself and the guy directly ahead on starting grid
2. Not respecting the gap and also having a speed violation meaning you pull ahead of your fellow competitor before the first corner breaking point
3. Not respecting the gap and clearly being ahead of your fellow competitor, meaning you cross the start line before they do (example: you were 5th on the grid, but cross the start line in 4th or better position.
So some severity clauses, in short, violating the gap, and not respecting it will result in a grid penalty of at least 1 position and most 3 positions.
1. Not respecting the gap of having no clear space between yourself and the guy directly ahead on starting grid
2. Not respecting the gap and also having a speed violation meaning you pull ahead of your fellow competitor before the first corner breaking point
3. Not respecting the gap and clearly being ahead of your fellow competitor, meaning you cross the start line before they do (example: you were 5th on the grid, but cross the start line in 4th or better position.
So some severity clauses, in short, violating the gap, and not respecting it will result in a grid penalty of at least 1 position and most 3 positions.
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Re: Rules Clarification
Hi All,
I am going to be crystal clear to all here.
I have seriously reached the end when it comes to conspiracy theories and blame and judgement and doubt in the intentions.
Everything created is to enrich the racing experience for all, not only for the elite few.
I have seen this multiple times over the span of the IFCAs existence.
And
If you have ever wondered, it never ends well for such people. It seems that the moment some become slightly quicker than others or get reprimanded (after careful scrutiny of infringement etc), they seem to get a chip on their shoulder and start throwing accusations around.
If this is you, listen very, very carefully. I will ban you outright until such time you settle down and can have an adult conversation.
Don and I don't have time, and energy to have hidden agendas, or be unfair.
There is a way to conduct yourself, but start a conversation in the wrong tone and well, rather go away before I chase you away. We don't need that.
There has been people that have been racing here for years, many many years. If you have any questions reach out to them, I'm sure they will confirm that the IFCA stands for every racer, and try and make it as equal to all as possible.
If you want to be heard, we have always listened, but keep it civil.
I apologize for cases where I get hot headed, it is uncalled for, so sorry.
There are reasons that certain things are done the way they are, but to start by pointing a finger and I will personally point you towards the door.
I banned Atoms for 5 days, accusing me of "hiding" evidence. What evidence, we had a massive heated debate after the race regarding the teams comp and inclusion of ALL racers registered as part of the team, whether they race or not.
Now I HAVE to include them in order for Don to have a grid, for in case a racer pitches up at 99. I can simply not spend the last hour before a race, adding and deleting people, I would also like to race if that is okay with everyone. So all are included. Also it is unfair to all teams with pitching racers to exclude other team racers, as it is for the teams to ensure their members pitch up. If they don't then it is too bad for that team and to the benefit of the other teams. It is what it is, so no more debating this.
If you leave a chat because you are angry, miss the whole conversation, and then afterwards don't have the information, and start asking questions that was answered, as well as think there is some hidden agenda in me not wanting to again explain things, then go cool down. Speak to your team captain.
In this regard we will reach out to members that seem to be able to have a constructive conversation, to be part of the IFCA, whether they fully agree or not, we need people to be involved, but also to deal inner thought patterns with.
Now back to business and enjoying the racing.
I am going to be crystal clear to all here.
I have seriously reached the end when it comes to conspiracy theories and blame and judgement and doubt in the intentions.
Everything created is to enrich the racing experience for all, not only for the elite few.
I have seen this multiple times over the span of the IFCAs existence.
And
If you have ever wondered, it never ends well for such people. It seems that the moment some become slightly quicker than others or get reprimanded (after careful scrutiny of infringement etc), they seem to get a chip on their shoulder and start throwing accusations around.
If this is you, listen very, very carefully. I will ban you outright until such time you settle down and can have an adult conversation.
Don and I don't have time, and energy to have hidden agendas, or be unfair.
There is a way to conduct yourself, but start a conversation in the wrong tone and well, rather go away before I chase you away. We don't need that.
There has been people that have been racing here for years, many many years. If you have any questions reach out to them, I'm sure they will confirm that the IFCA stands for every racer, and try and make it as equal to all as possible.
If you want to be heard, we have always listened, but keep it civil.
I apologize for cases where I get hot headed, it is uncalled for, so sorry.
There are reasons that certain things are done the way they are, but to start by pointing a finger and I will personally point you towards the door.
I banned Atoms for 5 days, accusing me of "hiding" evidence. What evidence, we had a massive heated debate after the race regarding the teams comp and inclusion of ALL racers registered as part of the team, whether they race or not.
Now I HAVE to include them in order for Don to have a grid, for in case a racer pitches up at 99. I can simply not spend the last hour before a race, adding and deleting people, I would also like to race if that is okay with everyone. So all are included. Also it is unfair to all teams with pitching racers to exclude other team racers, as it is for the teams to ensure their members pitch up. If they don't then it is too bad for that team and to the benefit of the other teams. It is what it is, so no more debating this.
If you leave a chat because you are angry, miss the whole conversation, and then afterwards don't have the information, and start asking questions that was answered, as well as think there is some hidden agenda in me not wanting to again explain things, then go cool down. Speak to your team captain.
In this regard we will reach out to members that seem to be able to have a constructive conversation, to be part of the IFCA, whether they fully agree or not, we need people to be involved, but also to deal inner thought patterns with.
Now back to business and enjoying the racing.
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Season 5 rule update
I was reminded that the ruling on disconnections is again in play this season since we are using car handicaps. We haven't used the car handicaps for 2 seasons, so I simply forgot about the lag out rule.
The rule is, any disconnection, lag out, game crash, rage quit or whatever, means that your rating is frozen. Whatever you were during the race will carry over to the next race.
This rule was put in place to discourage drivers from tanking their ratings in order to get a better car the next round. Mathematically it doesn't really work to do such a thing, but it does artificially mess with the finishing order of the following race and can affect team points as well.
So, GTDon, BULLET, and LilAnt1090 must remain in their Pro level builds.
The rule is, any disconnection, lag out, game crash, rage quit or whatever, means that your rating is frozen. Whatever you were during the race will carry over to the next race.
This rule was put in place to discourage drivers from tanking their ratings in order to get a better car the next round. Mathematically it doesn't really work to do such a thing, but it does artificially mess with the finishing order of the following race and can affect team points as well.
So, GTDon, BULLET, and LilAnt1090 must remain in their Pro level builds.
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