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Post by IFCA GTDon Sat Oct 19, 2024 11:26 am

Super Touring Rd America Nov 2nd Hq720



Practice Lap Bonuses
top 23
3 thru 82
9 thru 241
Wed bonus0.5



    

DriverCarP.I.Practice LapDial-inWed Bonus
1RP Jonathon2000 Nissan SilviaA7002:11.4222:11.7220.50
2C1 Munz1967 Nissan R380A7002:11.7482:12.0480.50
3C1 KalashN541987 Ford SierraS7052:11.9202:12.2200.50
4IFCA Eries1960 Porsche 718 RSS7052:12.2552:12.555
5Co0L 5tory Br01964 Ford GT40S7102:12.7902:13.0900.50
6IFCA GTDon1979 Opel KadettS7052:12.8852:13.1850.50
7C1 ETIENNE1987 Ford SierraS7102:12.8972:13.1970.50
8C1 Nemesis1985 Toyota AE86S7052:12.9342:13.234
9fabiomqs1964 Ford GT40S7152:13.1062:13.406
10C1 CrAzY1985 Toyota AE86A7002:13.4052:13.7050.50
11xNoRacialx1964 Ford GT40A7002:13.4432:13.7430.50
12LilAnt10902000 Nissan SilviaS7102:13.4642:13.764
13ZHP 20041955 Porsche 550S7102:14.2682:14.568
14GoSox20002002 BMW M3S7152:14.7162:15.016
15EarnedCarrot9251987 Ford SierraA7002:15.4492:15.749
16C1 Alkyra1967 Nissan R380S7152:15.7142:16.014
17SirKane2  1984 Ferrari 288 GTOS7202:16.2062:16.506
18IlsImlI1964 Ford GT40A7002:16.7432:17.043
19Papa creech1721973 Ford EscortA7002:16.8392:17.139
20ianindy1979 Opel KadettS7152:17.2302:17.530
21BULLETGTR891990 Mazda MiataA7002:17.7392:18.039

     

 
Race Length 27laps 2 pits
Tire wear 2.0
Mandatory tire compounds
Medium 
Soft
Soft


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Post by IFCA GTDon Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:46 am

Because I didn't like the idea of a call out delayed start procedure due to the fact that not everyone can hear, some are not English speakers, and teams like to be in their own private party, I had to try to come up with a different way that would have a similar impact but was more automated.

What we will do instead, (due to game limitations I might add) is a reverse order grid with 4 groups and a 4sec delay per row.  The groups are as follows:

group 1-Copper/Bronze
group 2-Silver/Gold
group 3-Platinum
group 4-Pro

There will be a 4sec delayed start between rows for each group. There isn't a way to delay the groups, you can only delay start pairs of cars or single cars. 

With a full grid of 24 drivers this means that the slowest 2 drivers will have a 45sec lead advantage over the fastest Pro driver.  This 45sec max advantage is not enough for the slowest drivers to beat the fastest driver however.  Instead it represents a kind of average across the field.  Meaning that the closer you are to your rival the more the time handicap makes a difference.  

For example, lets say a fast Platinum level driver has a 4sec start advantage over a slower (within the skill level) Pro level driver, often, the faster Pro driver will still finish 5-6sec ahead of a slower Platinum driver.  So while the handicap start helps everyone, it's not enough to guarantee a win for the lower rated drivers.  What it does do is increase the pressure on everyone to run faster to catch up knowing that you risk breaking out at the same time. 

In this way the faster drivers will not be able to "coast" because they are leading and driving well under their dial-in. It forces everyone to run at their maximum the whole race in other words.  This effectively doubles the pressure because you can't go too slow and you don't dare go too fast.  In turn this makes having a great dial-in all important.

Obviously, the reverse grid delayed start helps the slower drivers stay closer for longer periods, for a more fair contest between skill levels.  It also allows for more passing opportunities and a better mix of cars on the track.


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Post by IFCA GTDon Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:20 pm

Here is the list of which group you are in based on your skill level/P.I. handicap.  Because there are no Bronze or Copper drivers this round there are only 3 groups.  This obviously means that the handicap delayed start for the slowest group (Group 1) will not be as large as it would be if we had 4 groups with a full grid.

To get to your correct group when you are in the lobby, press Y and change group.




Group 1/Bronze-Copper
SirKane2  1984 Ferrari 288 GTOS720
Group 2/Silver-Gold
C1 ETIENNE1987 Ford SierraS710
Co0L 5tory Br01964 Ford GT40S710
LilAnt10902000 Nissan SilviaS710
ZHP 20041955 Porsche 550S710
fabiomqs1964 Ford GT40S715
GoSox20002002 BMW M3S715
C1 Alkyra1967 Nissan R380S715
ianindy1979 Opel KadettS715
Group 3/Platinum
C1 KalashN541987 Ford SierraS705
IFCA GTDon1979 Opel KadettS705
C1 Nemesis1985 Toyota AE86S705
IFCA Eries1960 Porsche 718 RSS705
Group 4/Pro
RP Jonathon2000 Nissan SilviaA700
C1 Munz1967 Nissan R380A700
C1 CrAzY1985 Toyota AE86A700
xNoRacialx1964 Ford GT40A700
EarnedCarrot9251979 Opel KadettA700
IlsImlI1964 Ford GT40A700
Papa creech1721973 Ford EscortA700
BULLETGTR891990 Mazda MiataA700


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Post by IFCA GTDon Fri Nov 01, 2024 10:40 am

IFCA GTDon wrote:Here is the list of which group you are in based on your skill level/P.I. handicap.  Because there are no Bronze or Copper drivers this round there are only 3 groups.  This obviously means that the handicap delayed start for the slowest group (Group 1) will not be as large as it would be if we had 4 groups with a full grid.

To get to your correct group when you are in the lobby, press Y and change group.




Group 1/Gold-Silver
C1 ETIENNE1987 Ford SierraS710
Co0L 5tory Br01964 Ford GT40S710
LilAnt10902000 Nissan SilviaS710
ZHP 20041955 Porsche 550S710
fabiomqs1964 Ford GT40S715
GoSox20002002 BMW M3S715
C1 Alkyra1967 Nissan R380S715
ianindy1979 Opel KadettS715
Group 2/Platinum
C1 KalashN541987 Ford SierraS705
IFCA GTDon1979 Opel KadettS705
C1 Nemesis1985 Toyota AE86S705
IFCA Eries1960 Porsche 718 RSS705
Group 3/Pro
RP Jonathon2000 Nissan SilviaA700
C1 Munz1967 Nissan R380A700
C1 CrAzY1985 Toyota AE86A700
xNoRacialx1964 Ford GT40A700
EarnedCarrot9251979 Opel KadettA700
IlsImlI1964 Ford GT40A700
Papa creech1721973 Ford EscortA700
BULLETGTR891990 Mazda MiataA700


Okay, 2 people have independently mentioned a potential issue with the way the reverse grid order start works, in that it could be abused by the more crafty drivers of us let's say.  

The idea is that if you hold back and run a slower qualifying lap you will then be gridded towards the front.  Well, we can't have that.  We can't make it an incentive to qualify poorly.  

As a deterrent we will impose a disincentive for this.  The driver who qualifies last in each group will receive a -1pt.  This should be enough to persuade everyone to do their utmost best and avoid being "that guy", the last qualifier in their respective group.  

If this isn't enough deterrent (perhaps because of team cooperation) we can consider progressively spreading this disincentive out to the last 3 drivers of each group.

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Post by IFCA GTDon Fri Nov 01, 2024 9:49 pm

It turns out that there will be 4 groups after all.  Sirkane is a lone Group 1 driver.


Group 1/Bronze-Copper
SirKane2  1984 Ferrari 288 GTOS720
Group 2/Silver-Gold
C1 ETIENNE1987 Ford SierraS710
Co0L 5tory Br01964 Ford GT40S710
LilAnt10902000 Nissan SilviaS710
ZHP 20041955 Porsche 550S710
fabiomqs1964 Ford GT40S715
GoSox20002002 BMW M3S715
C1 Alkyra1967 Nissan R380S715
ianindy1979 Opel KadettS715
Group 3/Platinum
C1 KalashN541987 Ford SierraS705
IFCA GTDon1979 Opel KadettS705
C1 Nemesis1985 Toyota AE86S705
IFCA Eries1960 Porsche 718 RSS705
Group 4/Pro
RP Jonathon2000 Nissan SilviaA700
C1 Munz1967 Nissan R380A700
C1 CrAzY1985 Toyota AE86A700
xNoRacialx1964 Ford GT40A700
EarnedCarrot9251979 Opel KadettA700
IlsImlI1964 Ford GT40A700
Papa creech1721973 Ford EscortA700
BULLETGTR891990 Mazda MiataA700

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Post by IFCA GTDon Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:53 pm

I just want to say that the racing was really good from my perspective.  Munz and I had a great back and forth.  I was right up against my dial-in to within 0.106 so I had to back off and stay out of the draft.  

I know the start was messed up and did not go as planned. Apologies for that. I will be changing the start procedure for the final race at Silverstone National in 2 weeks. 

Keep in mind that we are simply attempting to give everyone the fairest possible shot without making it too unfair to the fastest drivers.  Also, this is a pilot series intended for the purpose
of making corrections and changes as we go.  We are about 90% good at this point so that we can apply what we have learned to next season and have an amazing season to wrap up the year with.

Below is the actual physical finishing order before the break-out :30sec penalties.


DriverCarP.I.Dial-inBest LapBreak OutTotal time with penalty
1C1 Nemesis1985 Toyota AE86S7052:13.2342:11.976+1.2581:31.33
2RP Jonathon2000 Nissan SilviaA7002:11.7222:11.786-0.0641:01.41
3C1 CrAzY1985 Toyota AE86A7002:13.7052:13.587+0.1181:32.00
4C1 KalashN541987 Ford SierraS7052:12.2202:12.780-0.5601:02.02
5LilAnt10902000 Nissan SilviaS7102:13.7642:13.653+0.1111:32.05
6fabiomqs1964 Ford GT40S7152:13.4062:13.419-0.0131:02.06
7C1 Munz1967 Nissan R380A7002:12.0482:12.441-0.3931:02.07
8IFCA Eries1960 Porsche 718 RSS7052:12.5552:12.871-0.3161:02.14
9C1 ETIENNE1987 Ford SierraS7102:13.1972:13.105+0.0921:32.25
10GoSox20002002 BMW M3S7152:15.0162:15.038-0.0221:02.46
11ZHP 20041955 Porsche 550S7102:14.5682:14.477+0.0911:32.57
12SirKane2  1984 Ferrari 288 GTOS7202:16.5062:15.048+1.4581:33.12
13EarnedCarrot9251987 Ford SierraA7002:15.7492:15.416+0.3331:33.44
14IlsImlI1964 Ford GT40A7002:17.0432:16.190+0.8531:34.08
15Papa creech1721973 Ford EscortA7002:17.1392:16.441+0.6981:34.09
16ianindy1979 Opel KadettS7152:17.5302:17.457+0.0731:34.24
17Co0L 5tory Br01964 Ford GT40S7102:13.0902:15.084DNFDNF
18IFCA GTDon1979 Opel KadettS7052:13.1852:13.291DNFDNF


Below is the finishing order after the :30sec penalties were applied.  It is this order that your race points are then based upon.


DriverCarP.I.Dial-inBest LapBreak OutTotal time with penalty
1RP Jonathon2000 Nissan SilviaA7002:11.7222:11.786-0.0641:01.41
2C1 KalashN541987 Ford SierraS7052:12.2202:12.780-0.5601:02.02
3fabiomqs1964 Ford GT40S7152:13.4062:13.419-0.0131:02.06
4C1 Munz1967 Nissan R380A7002:12.0482:12.441-0.3931:02.07
5IFCA Eries1960 Porsche 718 RSS7052:12.5552:12.871-0.3161:02.14
6GoSox20002002 BMW M3S7152:15.0162:15.038-0.0221:02.46
7C1 Nemesis1985 Toyota AE86S7052:13.2342:11.976+1.2581:31.33
8C1 CrAzY1985 Toyota AE86A7002:13.7052:13.587+0.1181:32.00
9LilAnt10902000 Nissan SilviaS7102:13.7642:13.653+0.1111:32.05
10C1 ETIENNE1987 Ford SierraS7102:13.1972:13.105+0.0921:32.25
11ZHP 20041955 Porsche 550S7102:14.5682:14.477+0.0911:32.57
12SirKane2  1984 Ferrari 288 GTOS7202:16.5062:15.048+1.4581:33.12
13EarnedCarrot9251987 Ford SierraA7002:15.7492:15.416+0.3331:33.44
14IlsImlI1964 Ford GT40A7002:17.0432:16.190+0.8531:34.08
15Papa creech1721973 Ford EscortA7002:17.1392:16.441+0.6981:34.09
16ianindy1979 Opel KadettS7152:17.5302:17.457+0.0731:34.24
17Co0L 5tory Br01964 Ford GT40S7102:13.0902:15.084DNFDNF
18IFCA GTDon1979 Opel KadettS7052:13.1852:13.291DNFDNF


As everyone can see breaking-out of your dial-in has a big impact on where you finish in total time.  About half the field did not or came very close to not breaking out which is better than what we had at Sebring.  So we will keep the +0.3sec dial-in formula.  In fact we had 6 drivers who nearly nailed their dial-in but it was fabiomqs who came to within 0.013 of a perfect dial-in gaining him a 2.5pt bonus! GoSox was just 0.009sec behind him!  So I think this works.

Fastest clean lap under their dial-in went to RP Jonathon in his Nissan Silvia with a 2:11.786 a mere -0.064 under his dial-in!  Pole bonus went to C1 Nemesis in his Toyota AE86 with a 2:12.177.  The winner was Jonathon, 2nd place was C1 KalashN54 in a Ford Sierra, and 3rd went to fabiomqs in a Ford GT40.

After some figuring we have a new qualifying and delay start formula that I will share later today.

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Post by IFCA GTDon Sun Nov 03, 2024 9:08 am

Skill
1C1 Nemesis1985 Toyota AE86S700Pro
2RP Jonathon2000 Nissan SilviaA700Pro
3C1 CrAzY1985 Toyota AE86A700Pro
4C1 KalashN541987 Ford SierraS705Platinum
5LilAnt10902000 Nissan SilviaS705Platinum
6fabiomqs1964 Ford GT40S705Platinum
7C1 Munz1967 Nissan R380S705Platinum
8IFCA Eries1960 Porsche 718 RSS710Gold
9C1 ETIENNE1987 Ford SierraS710Gold
10GoSox20002002 BMW M3S710Gold
11ZHP 20041955 Porsche 550S710Gold
12SirKane2  1984 Ferrari 288 GTOS715Silver
13EarnedCarrot9251987 Ford SierraS715Silver
14IlsImlI1964 Ford GT40S715Silver
15Papa creech1721973 Ford EscortS715Silver
16ianindy1979 Opel KadettS720Bronze
17Co0L 5tory Br01964 Ford GT40S710Gold
18IFCA GTDon1979 Opel KadettS705Platinum



Race Points

        

FinishedDriverCarP.I.Race pointsPracticePoleFLCleanPP-BonusTotal
1RP Jonathon2000 Nissan SilviaA700483.510.2552.75
2C1 KalashN541987 Ford SierraS705472.549.5
3fabiomqs1964 Ford GT40S7154612.549.5
4C1 Munz1967 Nissan R380A700443.50.2547.75
5IFCA Eries1960 Porsche 718 RSS7054220.2544.25
6GoSox20002002 BMW M3S7154010.2541.25
7C1 Nemesis1985 Toyota AE86S70539210.2542.25
8C1 CrAzY1985 Toyota AE86A700381.539.5
9LilAnt10902000 Nissan SilviaS7103710.2538.25
10C1 ETIENNE1987 Ford SierraS710361.537.5
11ZHP 20041955 Porsche 550S71035136
12SirKane2  1984 Ferrari 288 GTOS7203410.2535.25
13EarnedCarrot9251987 Ford SierraA700331-133
14IlsImlI1964 Ford GT40A7003210.25-132.25
15Papa creech1721973 Ford EscortA70031132
16ianindy1979 Opel KadettS7153010.2531.25
17Co0L 5tory Br01964 Ford GT40S710292.531.5
18IFCA GTDon1979 Opel KadettS705282.5-129.5
FinishedDriver OrderTeamAvg FinishRace pointsPractice PoleFLCleanTotal
1Team Penske II52430
1RP Jonathon3.510.25
9LilAnt109010.25
2C1 Camembert E-Sport623.527.5
2C1 KalashN542.5
10C1 ETIENNE1.5
3C1 Racing7.52327.75
8C1 CrAzY1.5
7C1 Nemesis210.25
4Titans1022.526.25
17Co0l_5tory_br02.5
3fabiomqs10.25
5Tailwind Racing10.52224.25
15Papa Creech1721
6GoSox200010.25
6Team Penske11.521.526.25
18IFCA GTDon2.5
5IFCA Eries20.25
7C1 Baguette E-Sport11.52124.75
4C1 Munz3.50.25
19C1 Alkyra


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