JFF Seasonal Break Races

Between Season 5 and 6, we will have a one week break before the next season starts.  We are going to fill this Saturday with a Just For Fun, Non Rated event.

One car, but just about everyone will be getting assigned a PI that they are not to exceed
Car:  1998 Nissan Silvia k's aero

Build rules:  You must run widest race tire front and rear. (don't worry, you'll still have plenty of PI)
                 Stock wheels will be used
                 You are not allowed to use the body kit that changes the standard nose of the car
                 All other parts, including Forza aero will be available to ALL drivers.
                 Each driver has been assigned a PI Rating

Track : Circuit of The Americas: West

2 sprint races:  12 laps each (Now extended to 16 laps each)

Starting grid will be determined by random lottery drawing

Driver PI

590 Quantum
600   Chevypower
605   GTDon2   Dinogumps
610   Latte Speed    ZHP 2004
620   ZAR Eries    Staffy9000
630 Stustu2k8
635   Gosox2000   AAR Oneshot    EarnedCarrot
645   EZT Tomcat   Sirkane   Poennaninova
660   PapaCreech   Midnite Rider

**NOTE:  This is your max PI, meaning you can build your car to any Pi not to exceed your assigned number.  
Example,  if you were and 640, you could build to 638.  You do not have to max your build if your having trouble doing so.**

Anyone looking to run should message Zhp or Staffy via xbox to get assigned a PI

Updated

Are we putting any times up on here or are we keeping everything a secret not 100% I'm racing but would be nice to see times to know who your racing or if you need to throw a hail Mary at the car

Was thinking the same thing

I wasn't planning on posting times but if you want me put them up I certainly can.

ZHP_2004 wrote:I wasn't planning on posting times but if you want me put them up I certainly can.

Better do it or the pitchforks and torches will be at your doorstep. lol

GTDon2 wrote:

ZHP_2004 wrote:I wasn't planning on posting times but if you want me put them up I certainly can.

Better do it or the pitchforks and torches will be at your doorstep. lol

Alrighty then... if you guys have times not found on the leaderboards, send them and I'll put a table up.

updated

Sorry Staffy, I thought you went wide right to create space, didnt realize you took that line. I blame Don.

I did at least let you regain position.

Guys regarding the races. If you bump someone and this makes them turn sideways, back off and let them regain position. I saw some hectic driving and zI was part of it as well. I try my utmost at the start to brake more to ensure all get through safely, only to be rear ended and left for dead. Also it really doesnt help to try and straighten someone, they are already taking measures to straighten up, all you do is wreck them further.

ZAR Eries wrote:Sorry Staffy, I thought you went wide right to create space, didnt realize you took that line. I blame Don.

I did at least let you regain position.

Guys regarding the races. If you bump someone and this makes them turn sideways, back off and let them regain position. I saw some hectic driving and zI was part of it as well. I try my utmost at the start to brake more to ensure all get through safely, only to be rear ended and left for dead. Also it really doesnt help to try and straighten someone, they are already taking measures to straighten up, all you do is wreck them further.

I generally agree.

But, more times than not if you cause a car to turn sideways in front of you, you can sometimes help the situation by preventing their car from turning all the way around. You can straighten them out with a bump and it isn't considered a disservice, it's considered a help.

In this case i didn't cause eries car to rotate sideways in front of me. And It left me with few choices. Stop and get rear-ended. Try to drive around by going off track and possibly crashing. Or give a helping hand and try to straighten his car out so we both can get going. It didn't work out this time perhaps because eries wasn't expecting it but it was an act of benevolence and not maliciousness. Sort of the least bad choice available.

It's happened to me many times. Someone gets into my door hard and my car starts to spin and if the other guys car is still close and he is a skilled driver he will block my car with his so it stops turning and straightens out faster than had i recovered it myself. It sucks, but i always give a symbolic wave of thanks for the concerned effort to make things right.

No worries, Im over it.

ZAR Eries wrote:No worries, Im over it.

Good, because if you two were gonna keep debating this I was gonna make each of you go lick the livery off Latte's car

ZHP_2004 wrote:

ZAR Eries wrote:No worries, Im over it.

Good, because if you two were gonna keep debating this I was gonna make each of you go lick the livery off Latte's car

Be nice if you posted a points result. Also, as i applaud the effort and am in sympathy with any race organizers, others are asking if they can add to your ideas for the next interim race before season 7. Get with Dino and see what he is thinking.

I'll have the race results up later today.

Nicely done boyz!  I would suggest that you invite others to throw in their 2cents too. And, I want more P.I. next time!

I'll be hosting this one.  It will be two 10lap races.  The top 3 will have to switch out their cars and start at the back for the second race. Just 6 Trans Am cars to pick from with a build that is very close to the real car counterparts.  Let the best makes win!

The car builds unless otherwise noted are: 
no downforce
full roll cage
widest race tires
no less than 2900lbs.

	Cars	max hp	minimum weight	downforce	widest race tires	roll cage
1	1969 Chevrolet Camaro	535hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
2	1973 Pontiac Firebird	530hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
3	1968 Dodge Dart	510hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
4	1970 Dodge Challenger	510hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
5	1971 Plymouth Cuda	510hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
6	1970 AMC Rebel Machine	480hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
7	1970 Chevrolet Camaro	475hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
8	1969 Pontiac Firebird	475hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
9	1969 Ford Mustang	470hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
10	1977 Aston Martin Vantage	460hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
11	1971 AMC Javelin	455hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
12	1971 Chevrolet Vega GT	430hp	2400lbs	yes	yes	yes
13	1979 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28	425hp	3300lbs	no	yes	yes
14	1970 Mercury Cougar	420hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
15	1965 Ford Mustang	415hp	2300lbs	no	yes	yes
16	1973 Porsche 911 RS	400hp	2500lbs	yes	yes	yes
17	1973 BMW 2002 Turbo	335hp	2100lbs	yes	yes	yes
18	1965 Alfa Romeo GTA	275hp	1600lbs	yes	yes	yes

   



Not bad, pretty tough track, cars were okay, racing was fairly clean too.  Congrats to ChevyPower for the overall win thanks to his pole position.  Quantum took 2nd and GTDon took 3rd place.  Ties were broken by IFCA rating.  With some new restrictions and BoP we can and should be able to use this model for future races.  Just have to settle the Javelin down and probably the Cougar too.

  

	Drivers	Rd1	Rd2	Total
1	RIOT ChevyPower	35	32	67
2	Quantum XVII	32	34	66
3	GTDon2	29	31	60
4	ZAR Eries	31	29	60
5	EarnedCarrot925	25	27	52
6	GoSox2000	27	25	52
7	SirKane2	23	24	47
8	Poennaninova	24	22	46
9	Midnite Rider	22	23	45
10	Papa creech172	21	21	42
11	APX TREMEC	20	0	20

In case you didn't see it in the above post, I have added more cars and set their hp to a specific number for each car to better balance them.  I also added some smaller cars that were used in Trans Am racing back in the day.  These small cars do have downforce and their own minimum hp and weight numbers.  


So, do whatever you like to these cars as long as they don't exceed their minimum weight and maximum hp figures, along with roll cage and widest race tires. (see chart below)


All the cars are much more balanced than when we were at VIR so that everyone can more easily pick their favorite car and not worry about being outgunned.


    

	Cars	max hp	minimum weight	downforce	widest race tires	roll cage
1	1969 Chevrolet Camaro	535hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
2	1973 Pontiac Firebird	530hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
3	1968 Dodge Dart	510hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
4	1970 Dodge Challenger	510hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
5	1971 Plymouth Cuda	510hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
6	1970 AMC Rebel Machine	480hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
7	1970 Chevrolet Camaro	475hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
8	1969 Pontiac Firebird	475hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
9	1969 Ford Mustang	470hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
10	1977 Aston Martin Vantage	460hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
11	1971 AMC Javelin	455hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
12	1971 Chevrolet Vega GT	430hp	2400lbs	yes	yes	yes
13	1979 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28	425hp	3300lbs	no	yes	yes
14	1970 Mercury Cougar	420hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
15	1965 Ford Mustang	415hp	2300lbs	no	yes	yes
16	1973 Porsche 911 RS	400hp	2500lbs	yes	yes	yes
17	1973 BMW 2002 Turbo	335hp	2100lbs	yes	yes	yes
18	1965 Alfa Romeo GTA	275hp	1600lbs	yes	yes	yes

Is the track a mystery or is it at VIR (yuck) again?

Midnite Rider wrote:Is the track a mystery or is it at VIR (yuck) again?

Track is Mugello short

I thought I might as well add all of the Trans Am era cars available.  It's quite a few, and some cars we rarely ever race.  Stop back here this week as I add a few more each day.

     

	Cars	max hp	minimum weight	downforce	widest race tires	roll cage
1	1969 Chevrolet Camaro	535hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
2	1973 Pontiac Firebird	530hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
3	1966 Chevrolet Nova SS	515hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
4	1968 Dodge Dart	510hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
5	1970 Dodge Challenger	510hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
6	1971 Plymouth Cuda	510hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
7	1969 Dodge Charger R/T	505hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
8	1969 Dodge Charger Daytona	505hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
9	1970 Dodge Coronet Super Bee	505hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
10	1967 Chevrolet Corvette	495hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
11	1967 Dodge Coronet W023	480hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
12	1970 AMC Rebel Machine	480hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
13	1970 Chevrolet Camaro	475hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
14	1969 Pontiac Firebird	475hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
15	1969 Ford Mustang	470hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
16	1970 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1	470hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
17	1977 Aston Martin Vantage	460hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
18	1971 AMC Javelin	455hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
19	1969 Chevrolet Nova SS	455hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
20	1971 Chevrolet Vega GT	430hp	2400lbs	yes	yes	yes
21	1979 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28	425hp	3300lbs	no	yes	yes
22	1970 Mercury Cougar	420hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
23	1969 Nissan Z432	420hp	2000lbs	yes	yes	yes
24	1965 Ford Mustang	415hp	2300lbs	no	yes	yes
25	1968 Ferrari 365 GTB/4	405hp	2900lbs	no	yes	yes
26	1973 Porsche 911 RS	400hp	2500lbs	yes	yes	yes
27	1973 Ford Capri RS3100	345hp	2100lbs	yes	yes	yes
28	1973 BMW 2002 Turbo	335hp	2100lbs	yes	yes	yes
29	1965 Alfa Romeo GTA	275hp	1600lbs	yes	yes	yes